Lady Lee

Joined

• started 794 topics
• posted 14,175 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Lady Lee

• 
  26

  What To Say To The Next JWs At Your Door?

  by TR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  householder: hey, you are the people from that religion that hides pedophiles, aren't you?.

  'hovah: whaaa?

  hh: yeah, i saw "dateline" the other night on how 'hovahs protect sexual deviants.. 'hovah: well, you can't believe....... hh: no, no, i did some research after watching the show, now the wts is synonymous with corruption, deceit, slander, death, suffering, and the like.. 'hovah: well i uh, don't know about, uh, any problems, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  On Saturday after dateline I had 2 JWs come to my door. I posted a thread about it at

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29178&site=3

  These people are just as blinded as I once was. I had a great discussion with them and talked about the need to remember the children and that the org had to find a way to do this.

  I understand the anger. I was a silent lamb. But no more. Getting angry at the people at the door does nothing to make them think. It does nothing to send them home to think about except how right they are and how persecuted.

  Make them think - really think - and stifle your anger at them. I let them know I was not angry with them. They don't make the policy. I did let them know very clearly without malice and hatred that I am angry at the org and have every reason to be. They agreed. If I hoild my anger I stay in control of the conversation. Without knowing it those two ladies were witnessed to instead of them witnessing to me.

  Quite honestly I think my witness was by far the more powerful between the two. I think they thought so too when they thanked me at the end of our conversation.

  Please be gentle with them. They need our love and support more than our wrath at the GB and WT org.

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  95

  Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

  by Wounded Heart in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

  i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

  the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  grrrrrr jumping up and down being feisty

  Ouch bumped my knee so much for feisty

  So welcome to plm and aroarer

  @$%$%%)&*&($#^$%@#^%$#^# trying not to be so polite

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  111

  Anyone from Minnesota?

  by scootergirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  looking for anyone from the st. cloud congregations (i was in the north one)...or surrounding areas.

  oh heck, anyone from minnesota is fine!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Hi I am in Winnipeg - not exactly in the area but not that far either

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  9

  Where did all the Dubs go?

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i`ve made a few posts about how much the dubs work my neighbourhood.you`d see them at least 2 or 3 times a month,sometimes more,going up and down our street.this has been going on for over 10 years.they avoided my house like the plague.i wonder why?

  (lol)last month not a single dub,this weekend not a single dub.where`d they all go?is any one else missing dubs from their neighbourhood?has the un-scandel and or silent lambs scandel got them hiding out.they`ve sure taken a beating lately,they must be getting chewed-out at the door on a regular basis now...outlaw

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Outlaw

  they're here at my house. - haven't seen them in 3 years but they are here now

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  16

  Other thoughts: the two witnesses idea

  by larc in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether the two witnesses to two separate incidences is new or old, it is still a very stupid policy.

  let us suppose a child was raped and their parents took the matter to police.

  further suppose that the police said, that they couldn't investigate because there had not been any other complaints against the rapist.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Hmmmm I wonder if the point of a rape victim screaming is to GET her two witnesses.

  Reality is that today no one pays attention to someone screaming. People get murdered and scream and yell and no one calls the police. Rule of thumb is if you need help you are better off screaming FIRE than help.

  The rule is absurd. There is absolutely no understanding of criminal behavior - all the more reason to go to the professionals to deal with instead of the window cleaner

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  7

  AINT GOING TO HAPPEN!

  by D8TA in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  his three boats stove around him, and oars and men both whirling in the eddies; one captain, seizing the line-knife from his broken prow, had dashed at the whale, as an arkansas duellist at his foe, blindly seeking with a six inch blade to reach the fathom-deep life of the whale.

  that captain was ahab.

  and then it was, that suddenly sweeping his sickle-shaped lower jaw beneath him, moby dick had reaped away ahab's leg, as a mower a blade of grass in the field.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  D8TA

  Many years ago I realized that anger that turns to revenge only hurts me. It eats one alive from the inside - burying the good and replacing it with the hatred. I don't know how I figured that out so young but needless to say it has helped me a great deal in my life.

  I still hate injustice and will fight to protect the innocent. But hatred for revenge is sour and curdles my soul.

  Bravo for your friend and especially to you for being able to listen to her sorrow for you.

  To live well is the best revenge
  --- not that garbage that seeks to destroy but rather the living well that builds up - yourself and others

  Years ago I told someone that living well meant being able to go to bed at night with a clean conscience. For those with no conscience this does not apply. But for the rest of us this is important. When I die I want to be at peace with myself - not wondering if maybe I should have done something differently. I like being the person I am. You will like returning to the person you are.

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  18

  JWForum sexist/pedophiles?

  by spaz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this person posted a parody to illustrate a bias in commenting on this forum.

  it is entitled,"i raped him when he was 15" and the jwf admin.

  relegated it to redundancy and a no-reply status.. twenty years ago i personally knew a female jw who lived in the san diego area and worked in law enforcement.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Barb Anderson was pretty clear on Dateline that there are female abusers in the files at WT headquarters.

  To date I don't think one person here has come forward stating they were abused by a female JW.

  As a professional I know it happens. I have worked with the victims but as yet have to meet one. If anyone has left the impression that all abusers are male that would be wrong. I sincerely hope that any male victims who are willing please step forward. I know you e=will get all the support I can give you to this issue.

  BTW the same goes for males abused by males

  Spaz sorry I did not see the thread you mentioned. If indeed the person was abused he needs support

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  95

  Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

  by Wounded Heart in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

  i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

  the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  I have learned about dysfunctional families. The rules are all bascially the same. I have a theory that since Russell was taken to court for sexual abuse and Rutherford was an alcoholic it makes perfect sense that the whole organization would follow whatever dysfunction were in each of these men.

  I know a lot of sexual abuse victims in the in the org and a lot of alcohics too. If the shoe fits the people will wear it

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  12

  Jws @ my door.unbelievable.....

  by target in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two jws, man and wife, were just at my door.

  she started presenting the watchtower and i just saw red!

  i can't believe the anger that welled up in me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Target I had to make that point clear to the 2 ladies who visited me yesterday. I think at the beginning they thought I was angry at tehm. But it is the org that does the lying along with a few who know and tow the party line. I think that as long as we are respectful even if we are angry at the situation they will listen. Hopefully we don't forget that we're not supposed to kill the messenger

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire
• 
  12

  Jws @ my door.unbelievable.....

  by target in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two jws, man and wife, were just at my door.

  she started presenting the watchtower and i just saw red!

  i can't believe the anger that welled up in me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Lady Lee

  Two eldersly ladies came to my house yesterday. I actually had a good talk with them and both went home wanting an explanation from their elder and said they didn't care if they got DFed. The elders had to get the pedophiles out of the congregation and keep them out forever.

  One had seen the show and taped it and the other agreed to go watch it

  They also told me they were warned at the service meeting to say it was all lies but the lady who had seen the show said "Where there's smoke there's fire"

  I alos put a wee bit of fear in them when I told them that even though a pedophile cannot hold a position it would not stop him from showing up at a service meeting and if he was the only male there he would have to take the lead AND say the prayer for them. Both appropriately horrified at that idea.

  Then I sent them on their way to make sure the young ladies who were with them were OK (at the next door when we started talking) and on a mission to make sure that no pedophile was going to be praying for them

  A not-so-silent lamb
  
  Aspire to inspire before you expire